This is excellent. While sitting in the hell camp Lyris explained just what the "Dunning Kruger" effect is. And here I get to see it applied.

Thanks.

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Pure goblin.

Ok, so you say you never seriously claim superiority, nor classify people into a ladder placing yourself on top, followed by claiming you are superior to mister Goblin because you know he is not ironic anywhere...
Meanwhile ignoring the facts presented, prefering to keep shooting the messenger from your selfmade position of superiority (you detest people like him).

Got it.

D.

^^ What?

Who put these words in your mouth?


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Mangala Solaris : (26 January 2014 - 07:15 PM) Im repricing on our kbs so may fix it may not be honestly idgaf


Kinna funny to do this right after everyone was bitching and moaning about the 3b pod and other losses.

Another post

Im just hoping the ISD will come along and lock these. They arent even entertaining anymore!

Man I wish they would stop letting kids post on the forums who know nothing.

Where is your proof of this? I do not see any I just see some random guy making stuff up like mad in an attempt to look smart. Go look some stuff up then attempt to talk with the adults.

We can argue about Marmites all day, though I prefer to let this run for a few months and get data.

But Lemmings exists for one and only reason: because I pay Marmite for its existence. Lemmings were found on that threadnought where I found Marmite members. Lemmings would cease to exist if I'd stop paying.

So yes, I can take ALL the credit.

What about the pilots who do the shooting? Without Lemmings they'd shoot random targets. They probably have similar magnitude of kills, probably in lowsec. But these kills would be totally random.

I am solely responsible for turning these players against CFC and focusing their damage on CFC.

"Lemmings" "Lemmings" "We can argue about Marmites all day, though I prefer to let this run for a few months and get data." "Lemmings" "Lemmings"

See I am Marmite. We have been around long before Lemmings. But nice try at stretching the facts.

But Lemmings exists for one and only reason: because I pay Marmite for its existence.

Not sure if your comment is meant to make you look like an idiot or make you look funny. Either one works fine I guess.

Ever heard of BoTLORD treaty? Goons and PL agreed not to directly attack the structures of each other in their respective regions they "own". You could have the same. Split the systems, you don't attack POCOs in Goon systems, they don't attack yours.

But instead you choose to go full ally, actively defending Goon assets. Since your POCOs were never in danger from anyone but Goons, you are bullied servants at best. Since my tiny alliance can contest Goon POCOs, it's clear that you were not forced to kiss the ring (and even then you could just have no POCOs). Above all, you could just give them the finger and "have fun fights". You choose to defend them. Just like you choose to defend Goons earlier this year. Which means you are their sockpuppet since years.

By the way I know that the reason Goons own POCOs is mostly "lol we have POCOs".
Considering the fact that you are in RvB, you greatly undervalue "lol".

Begs the question then why go after RvB like this? You want the goon pocos, RvB is stopping you getting the pocos, so why not try to talk to them and get them to sign a non-aggression pact instead of mutual defense pact with goons and then get the hell out of yr way? You know its a bad idea to fight a 2 front war right? Didn't work for napoleon, didnt end well for Adolf. One fight at a time if you want to win!

I have better idea. I'll warp to a belt during incursion and when the rats arrive, I just be diplomatic and nice and convince them to leave me alone. After all they aren't mining, we don't have conflicting interests.

^^ And that's exactly what makes it clear for everyone except you that YOU are trolling and have no valid argument.

Compared to your posts, Mister Goblin is the Albert Einstein for space computer games.

If you know what is meant but don't have any other rebuttals than grammar police, you've lost the argument.

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Damn, people like you make directors cry. READ THE DAMN MOTD!
"Gevlon is bad in diplomacy" is the 2 versions old narrative and was replaced. Read what Mangala wrote, you should be echoing that. Claiming that RvB protected Goons in 2013 April because Gevlon was autistic in 2014 February makes you look stupid.

No, my first contact with RvB was them jumping on my 50-man baby alliance to finish it before it started.

Then why are you trying to stop me? I'm a bliss to GSF. You should be hoping I never stop.

In January Goons and pets lost 135B to Lemmings and Marmites. I'm embarrassed.

Guys, you are not helping Mynnna/Mangala here, get your **** together!

Look, you supposed to build a "wall of opinions". All of you telling the same thing, preferably with the same phrases. This causes the random reader to say "OP said X supported by a bunch of numbers and points I couldn't be bothered to read, and everyone else said Y, so Y must be true". It won't work if you all saying conflicting things! I could count at least 5 different damage control stories killing each other:

• RvB is having a mutually good treaty with Goons limited only to POCOs. Burn Jita was a random coincidence.
• RvB is supporting Goons because Gevlon is bad at diplomacy and made RvB mad. Burn Jita was a random coincidence.
• It doesn't matter if RvB is a Goon pet as long as the RvB line members are having fun
• The data Gevlon provided is inconclusive because it doesn't contain nullsec wars where RvB ganked fleets killed Goons
• RvB is indeed a Goon pet now, but there isn't any evidence that it was originally created by Goons

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Please don't try to claim some sort of credit/thump your chest over kills you had nothing to do with.

So yes, I can take ALL the credit.

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I am solely responsible for turning these players against CFC and focusing their damage on CFC.

It was fun until it wasn't, so I quit Lemmings again!

We had a big fleet, and I suggested a trip into low/null and people got scared. We had another fleet, and I speculated on the purpose, and got threatened with being kicked.

RvB attacked our station camp, and I was a hero, while most of my blues docked up.

Another time, someone got impatient because I only had an hour left to get my teamspeak sorted, and 5 more minutes would have been too long. Then when I got on teamspeak, people were talking about how those that weren't were spies and stuff. Surely spies would be first to get on teamspeak?

Also, I like to listen to music, but people would rather you didn't, and get on teamspeak as soon as you log on, whether an OP is on or not.

Also they like to lie about OPs before taking you on a POCO bash. Isn't that sort of a scam?

So on paper it sounds like fun, but for some, Lemmings is serious business.

Anyway, good luck to all sides!

Seem like fun engagements at the moment are the territory of Brave Newbies. They went all in with their fleet in 0-W. It's one thing to show up at a fight against a larger enemy, but it's another thing entirely to hold your ground once you realise you are going to suffer a total loss. Hat tipped to them for that.

Alternatively groups like RvB offer easy access to combat. If you really want to find a small tight-knit group to have a load of fun with though, then FW groups can be a good laugh.

Yeah I tried FW and it just made me want to pirate